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irlandes
Posted: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:20:53 PM
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I actually hadn't thought to even ask about this problem. But, reading Marnet's proposed move, changed my mind, just in case someone has had experience.

Here in Mexico, not expecting to return to the States until October, one of the rear 'wing' windows on our 2002 Sienna broke loose from the motor that opens and closes it. I did find a large screw in the back of the car, not even sure it is part of the problem.

I took a piece of red electrical wire, made a big knot in it, and ran it in through the hole in the wing, then tied it around one of the grips inside the car to keep out bugs and rain. I can get by until October, no problem.

My thought when I get to McAllen, is to first take it to G&S glass in Edinburg, he is an old buddy of my SIL, and has done a couple jobs for us. The windshield got cracked in Mexico so no insurance, and another time, the outside rear view mirror got broken, charged me $10 for new glass, total.

I will first ask him if he can fix it, because it really bugs me to take it to a dealer and have him drive it to a contract place, and tack on $150 for the trip.

If Gus can't do it, then I suppose I may have to go to Toyota.

My question is, has anyone ever had this done, any experience on what is involved with repairs like that? Is that a job often done by glass places?

Thanks for any experiences at all.
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ok4450
Posted: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:41:21 PM
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I see no reason why a regular glass shop should not be able to handle this while bypassing the dealer.
When I worked for dealers we actually did door glass and vent glass work but did not do fixed glass such as front windshields and rear windows.

My feeling is that the reason for the dealers not doing windshield work is time based. Considering dealer hourly labor rates, if one multiplies that by the time spent the total would be much higher than a fee that a glass shop would charge.
I've done some windshields and to be honest, I absolutely hate it. There's also the risk of a mechanic damaging one. Sending it out puts the onus on the glass shop. If they break it then the next one is on them.

(I actually broke a windshield in a car that belonged to a buddy of my boss. I was under the hood wrestling a bolt in a tight place and a wrench slipped off of a frozen bolt. The wrench barely tapped the bottom of the glass and I cringed when I hear the pop. No damage so I breathed easy and went back to work. A few minutes later I heard a crack sound and there was an inch long crack there. Darn it; better go 'fess up. As I walked off I heard it crack further. Going through the door into the office yet another crack. While walking back out with my boss we heard it crack several more times and when we arrived at the car the crack was halfway up the pass. side glass and was heading towards the driver's side. While we stood there talking it continued to crack and finally stopped when it reached the pillar on the far side. At least they didn't get mad at me because by this point it had become almost comical to watch.)
jtsanders
Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:14:47 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if a glass shop would do it. My daughter broke the side mirror glass backing out of the garage. I cleaned the broken glass off the plastic base and went to the auto glass shop. I brought the mirror base with me in case they had the part in stock so that I could check the fit. It turned out that they had a catalog and ordered the part with overnight delivery. They glued the new mirror on for $10 extra. I suppose if I'd wanted them to, they would have mounted the mirror, too. A nice family shop. I'm going back if I need any more glass work.
irlandes
Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:58:32 PM
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I did the side view mirror at a glass shop. My concern is if the hardware is the sort of thing a glass shop could get. If they can do it, I would much prefer a glass shop do it.
irlandes
Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:59:29 PM
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I did the side view mirror at a glass shop. My concern is if the hardware is the sort of thing a glass shop could get. If they can do it, I would much prefer a glass shop do it.
irlandes
Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:55:02 PM
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I discovered I do have the shop manual with me, and dug through it. Then, with an idea what was involved, looked it over again.

It looks like some sort of plastic doohickey comes in through the hole in the wing, I am not sure if it locks in place, or the screw expands it and makes it a compression fit.

But, the motor has some sort of part which touches the window, and a large screw comes from the inside, and enters the plastic doohickey, and thus mounts the motor to the wing.

I also discovered the screw in the other wing MAY be getting loose as well.

So, when I get back to the States, I will hit Toyota dealer with the shop manual photo, and see if I can order the parts. But, I have learned my lesson over the years, and will attempt to order several of them so if I am still driving this car when they stop ordering parts, I will have spares. It may well be if I can get the parts, I can install them myself.

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